‘N’ is for Newcomer – ‘O’ is for Old Timer (GlossAAry Update)

Just to let y’all know i’ve updated the GlosAAry with a couple new definitions:



Customer In Training

Someone with less than one year of sobriety. Because those new to sobriety are often spiritually and psychologically fragile, it is often recommended that newcomers refrain from making any major life changes (for example selling the house, changing careers, getting divorced) in their first year. There is an unwritten rule that other AA members should not become romantically invloved with newcomers because the relationship wouldn’t be balanced and the sobriety of both members would be threatened.

Be nice to every newcomer, they may be your next sponsor.

Old Timer

Old Timer

The weirdness is still out there.

Part sage, part war vetern, the term “old timer” implies the member has seen it all,  including tough love recovery and has some distilled wisdom to impart. While there is no set time limit when a member officially becomes an “old timer”, 25 years sobriety would seem like a minimum.

When I tell people I’ve been sober for nearly 45 years, I see them look at me like it’s a prison sentence. Condemned to 45 years of boredom and niceness.  I’m here to tell you, the weird stuff is still out there.  When you get drunk it falls in your lap, but when you’re sober, you may have to look for it, but it’s out there. The weirdness is still out there. –Heard in the Rooms


About Al K Hall

Like a battered drinker or a punch drunk boxer, i am here for another round. For those of you who don’t know me, i’m a semi-professional writer on the rocks and a non-practicing alcoholic (if after 30 years of practicing, you still can't do something well, it's best to just give it up). For those of you who do know me, thanks for stopping by anyway and where’s the ten bucks you owe me? Welcome to my Bar None. A hole in the wall where we can hang out and trade the kind of stories you swap only when you’ve had one too many and either can’t find your way home or are afraid to. Hell, it’s cheaper than therapy and plus the pictures are prettier. Here we’ll crack open bottles and jokes and ‘last call’ are the only dirty words you’ll never hear. Pull up a stool and make yourselves at home.

Posted on May 1, 2012, in Alcoholics Anonymous, Alcoholism, Lessons in Recovery, Recovery and tagged , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.

  1. Well giddyup! I feel like i’ve crossed into the BarNone …

  2. working on it

    This post.makes a ton of sense. If I quit for 100 years (figuratively speaking of course), I will never consider myself an old timer. There will always be so much to learn. What is the term for one who is more than a newbie but not quite old?

    I saw a show, Ringer, I think. The protagonist who is an addict “did it” with her sponsor and all I could think was umm that seems so wrong. Then of course the guilt set in bc who am I to judge? Anyhow hope everything is going well.over in yeman. 🙂

    • Thanks for the visit and the comment!

      There’s always a lot to learn, for sure. Funny, i asked my sponsor the same question about the in-betweeners and he told me we’re called “people with time”. (i say “we” because i’m at 15 months and counting…)

      As for the show, it sounds very dramatic, but IRL i haven’t met any mixed gender sponsor / sponsee teams. i think everyone knows where it’s going to end up and both people’s sobriety will be put in jeopardy so we steer clear from it. Not to say it’s never happened, ijust agree with you that it seems so wrong!

      Things a rockin’ in Yeaman, hope they are there too!

      Keep coming back,

      Al K Hall

  3. No big changes in the first year huh. Damn, wish my husband’s company knew that before they decided to transfer him and thus launch me into a major relocation organisation. It is a test for sure but I feel like I’ve squared my jaw to it and gone ‘bring it on’. Bring it on coz whatever you throw at my I ain’t drinking again, ever. xxxx

    • Hi Mrs D!

      i’m really not well placed at all to give advice, but if i were you, even before i left, i’d go online and look up meetings in the new town. SOunds like you’ve got steel resolve in your sobriety, though, and that’s got to help a lot! Enjoy your new town!

      Keep coming back,

      AL K Hall

  4. jumpingpolarbear

    What was your favourite “poison” when you drank? And people who are unable to have fun without alchohol are not fun at all, they are just drunk :).

    • Polar Bear!

      Nice to see you around here. i used to prefer wine because it was cheap (i could buy a decent bottle for under 5 bucks), strong enough that it got me buzzed but not too quickly (13% alcohol), and easy for me to judge (1 bottle was perfect drunk, two bottle was too drunk and more than that meant i would black out until my hangover kicked in).

      i’m all about the fun, brother! In fact, it’s never been easier for me to find it than since i got sober!

      Keep coming back,

      Al K Hall

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